how to install ZeroStart Engine Heater

after i figure the ZeroStart Tank/Circulation Engine Heater would be the best pick for my TDI Golf i have a question..

can anyone explain to me how the best way to install it or just redirect me to the proper thread?
best wishes and thanks
Edmonton

chris2

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Joined May 14, 2006 Location Edmonton, AB TDI 2002 Jetta GLS

Zerostart install

I think this is what you need.
http://pics2.tdiclub.com/gwillie/zerostart install.htm
Let me know how you make out as I am thinking of getting one of these units myself.

burpod

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Joined Nov 27, 2004 Location cape cod, ma TDI 82 rabbit vnt ahu, 98 jetta vnt ahu, 05 parts car, 88 scirocco.. :/

actually, i have the same question - i know how it installs with the manual tranny, easy, mount it to the battery holder (which i did on my 5spd jetta), but on the automatic (06 golf), the tranny is in the way. i thought i read on the automatic it mounts (with the tdiheater.com kit) behind the intercooler. is there any other place to put it? i haven't taken the wheel well out to see about a mounting space there. but it seems out of the way, but i can't figure out another space where it will sit low enough.

red golf tdi

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Joined Jan 16, 2001 Location Minneapolis,MN TDI 1999.5 Golf Red Our custom kit for the A4 tiptronics mounts under the oil cooler.

burpod

teh stallionz!!1

Joined Nov 27, 2004 Location cape cod, ma TDI 82 rabbit vnt ahu, 98 jetta vnt ahu, 05 parts car, 88 scirocco.. :/

ahhh, thanks. that makes more sense i didn't think i saw space there, but i'll take another look.

red golf tdi

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Joined Jan 16, 2001 Location Minneapolis,MN TDI 1999.5 Golf Red burpod said: ahhh, thanks. that makes more sense i didn't think i saw space there, but i'll take another look.

You should come down, and I'll put one in for you no charge labor. I need to test-fit our new stainless steel bracket for the tiptronics anyway.

burpod

teh stallionz!!1

Joined Nov 27, 2004 Location cape cod, ma TDI 82 rabbit vnt ahu, 98 jetta vnt ahu, 05 parts car, 88 scirocco.. :/

terry - sent a pm. but i don't think it will work out as i'm installing a pd134 oil cooler and doing an oil change at the same time (while the coolant and oil are both drained), so it might be too much of a hassle and not the standard fit. thx tho

casta_baga

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Joined Jun 26, 2004 Location Edmonton - AB TDI golf 2001 - golf wagon 2010

thanks ..
I just bought one today at canadian tire, very cheap in fact.
i looked thought the link u gave me..
looks easy.
i have to install it quick because the winter's coming
I'll post the results

wolfsburg

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Joined Jan 25, 2002 Location Niagara, Ontario TDI 06 Golf casta_baga said:

thanks ..
I just bought one today at canadian tire, very cheap in fact.
i looked thought the link u gave me..
looks easy.
i have to install it quick because the winter's coming
I'll post the results

You purchased one at Canadian tire. what is the part number.
Thanks

casta_baga

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Joined Jun 26, 2004 Location Edmonton - AB TDI golf 2001 - golf wagon 2010

hello Wolfsburg.
I purchased in Edmonton a zerostart 1000watts with a model number 3305002A.

I haven't installed it yet unfortunately since I came to Edmonton I'm always busy, looks like but..
do you have anything to had on my reply?

Vulcan

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Joined May 18, 2004 Location Edmonton, Alberta TDI 2004 Silver Jetta TDI Sport

Is there a mounting change on 2004 Jettas? I wias looking at the instructs proved here and I don't have that bolt on the corner of the battery tray on my car (that I can see/feel).

TDI_YWG

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Joined Oct 3, 2002 Location Winnipeg, MB TDI '03 Golf GLS TDI, '03 Golf GL TDI, '01 T4 California Exclusive, '00 T4 Multivan "Atlantis"

You will have to drill a hole through the battery tray. Just make sure that you take in to account where the battery sits on the tray or you will go to put your battery back in, and d'oh!
Scott

red golf tdi

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Joined Jan 16, 2001 Location Minneapolis,MN TDI 1999.5 Golf Red

Is there a mounting change on 2004 Jettas? I wias looking at the instructs proved here and I don't have that bolt on the corner of the battery tray on my car (that I can see/feel).

Yes, the mounting bolt was removed by Volkswagen mid-2001, and then for the PD engines in 2004 VW changed the layout under the hood which requires a specific kit for the PDs. We offer the specific kits for the 2004 to 2006. one for the manual, one for the automoatic.

backhoeken

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Joined Sep 26, 2000 Location mass Do they have a pump or something in them to push the water to the engine

burpod

teh stallionz!!1

Joined Nov 27, 2004 Location cape cod, ma TDI 82 rabbit vnt ahu, 98 jetta vnt ahu, 05 parts car, 88 scirocco.. :/

it circulates simply by convection. this is why you want to mount it in a low spot in the coolant system, so the warm coolant rises up easier. if you buy the zerostart heater itself it's really easy to make/find a mounting bracket yourself.

red golf tdi

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Joined Jan 16, 2001 Location Minneapolis,MN TDI 1999.5 Golf Red . it's really easy to make/find a mounting bracket yourself.

Just make sure it is isolated from the engine to prevent heater burn-out. Our kit comes ready to install with an isolation dampener.

fitzski

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Joined Oct 13, 2004 Location Ottawa TDI Uh. hmm. Well, none. TDI_YWG said:

You will have to drill a hole through the battery tray. Just make sure that you take in to account where the battery sits on the tray or you will go to put your battery back in, and d'oh!
Scott

Whoa. no drilling required. There is a bolt that can be used, just in front of the battery tray. You may have to fiddle with the mounting brackets for everything to line up.

Here's mine ('04 PD Jetta):

casta_baga

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Joined Jun 26, 2004 Location Edmonton - AB TDI golf 2001 - golf wagon 2010 chris2 said:

I think this is what you need.
http://pics2.tdiclub.com/gwillie/zerostart%20install.htm
Let me know how you make out as I am thinking of getting one of these units myself.

well this was very OK, your info is very easy to understand and to follow, I did that last night, it took me probably 1,5 hours, i run into a difficulties of finding the mounting bracket so i had to make one myself.

thank you so much for your help.

i notice that zerostar gets really warm.

can anyone explain how this zerostart actually work?

i looked on the manual and internet and i did not find info's on how long should we leave it connected, how long does it takes to warm up, if this zerostart is actually warming up when is connected or only during certain times.

Last edited: Dec 3, 2006

fitzski

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Joined Oct 13, 2004 Location Ottawa TDI Uh. hmm. Well, none.

The heater works by thermal convection. There is a heater element, similar to a traditional block heater plug, and it heats the coolant in the unit. As the coolant warms up, thermal convection properties generate a flow where the warm fluid is displaced by cooler fluid. There is no circulation pump, and this is why the Zerostart unit needs to be at the lowest point of the cooling system.

It's not a quick process, and depending on the ambient temperature, the car should be plugged in for at least 2, and up to 3, hours before you leave.

When a portion of a fluid is heated, its density decreases by expansion. The surrounding, denser fluid flows downward by the combined effect of gravity and forced displacement by the expanding heated fluid.